The Joseph Cornell Box: Found Objects, Magical Worlds - crafthaus2024-03-28T18:24:43Zhttp://crafthaus.ning.com/forum/topics/the-joseph-cornell-box-found-objects-magical-worlds?groupUrl=art-and-craft-book-reviews&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI felt the same way about the…tag:crafthaus.ning.com,2014-02-25:2104389:Comment:4592822014-02-25T21:07:18.499ZKimberly Nogueirahttp://crafthaus.ning.com/profile/KimberlyNogueira
<p>I felt the same way about the collage sheets Harriet! There are similar sheets for sale at Michael's...I've never seen Joseph's Cornell's work but I've heard it often referenced. Perhaps this book is geared to teenagers, it has all the elements to appeal to that age set. </p>
<p>I felt the same way about the collage sheets Harriet! There are similar sheets for sale at Michael's...I've never seen Joseph's Cornell's work but I've heard it often referenced. Perhaps this book is geared to teenagers, it has all the elements to appeal to that age set. </p> Funny from 2 Roses. You must…tag:crafthaus.ning.com,2014-02-24:2104389:Comment:4591022014-02-24T15:25:26.417ZHarriete E Bermanhttp://crafthaus.ning.com/profile/HarrieteEstelBerman
<p>Funny from 2 Roses. You must be great company at dinner.</p>
<p>Harriete</p>
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<p>Funny from 2 Roses. You must be great company at dinner.</p>
<p>Harriete</p>
<p></p> We doubt the estate of Joseph…tag:crafthaus.ning.com,2014-02-24:2104389:Comment:4587932014-02-24T07:32:50.229Z2Roseshttp://crafthaus.ning.com/profile/2Roses
<p>We doubt the estate of Joseph Cornel is overly concerned about a flood of Cornel forgeries or stylistic rippoffs flooding the market. This kit is clearly aimed at the non-artist, non-creative thinker.</p>
<p>Why indeed have a set of predefined stickers? So that the user can easily achieve a predetermined and acceptable result without all the skills, we as trained artists apply innately. Compositional narrative being chief among them. This kit is the very essence of inclusion with built-in…</p>
<p>We doubt the estate of Joseph Cornel is overly concerned about a flood of Cornel forgeries or stylistic rippoffs flooding the market. This kit is clearly aimed at the non-artist, non-creative thinker.</p>
<p>Why indeed have a set of predefined stickers? So that the user can easily achieve a predetermined and acceptable result without all the skills, we as trained artists apply innately. Compositional narrative being chief among them. This kit is the very essence of inclusion with built-in positive reinforcement of the user's effort.</p>
<p>As professional artists we are not in the slightest concerned that the positive experience of anyone playing with this kit will in any way diminish our stature or ability to earn income. We do see great potential for a Harriet Estel Berman printed tin bracelet kit though.</p>
<p></p> Yes, I understand and agree w…tag:crafthaus.ning.com,2014-02-23:2104389:Comment:4590482014-02-23T21:09:17.681ZHarriete E Bermanhttp://crafthaus.ning.com/profile/HarrieteEstelBerman
<p>Yes, I understand and agree with what you are saying...but would prefer they suggest cutting out images from books or magazines.....(a la Joseph Cornel) rather than offer pre-printed stickers.<br/><br/>It is the stickers that make me concerned, not the book or project.</p>
<p>Harriete</p>
<p>Yes, I understand and agree with what you are saying...but would prefer they suggest cutting out images from books or magazines.....(a la Joseph Cornel) rather than offer pre-printed stickers.<br/><br/>It is the stickers that make me concerned, not the book or project.</p>
<p>Harriete</p> When it comes to getting intr…tag:crafthaus.ning.com,2014-02-23:2104389:Comment:4586052014-02-23T18:10:04.772ZBrigitte Martinhttp://crafthaus.ning.com/profile/brigittemartin
<p>When it comes to getting introduced to new ideas, sights and thoughts many people need a lot more hand holding than most of us with an art background expect. We come to this naturally because we are driven to make since before birth, but I have often observed that non-creative types who are open to learning new things need a lot of guidance, talking to, and step-by-step instructions to feel secure enough in creating anything at all. Remember the experience economy PDS we did, Harriete, about…</p>
<p>When it comes to getting introduced to new ideas, sights and thoughts many people need a lot more hand holding than most of us with an art background expect. We come to this naturally because we are driven to make since before birth, but I have often observed that non-creative types who are open to learning new things need a lot of guidance, talking to, and step-by-step instructions to feel secure enough in creating anything at all. Remember the experience economy PDS we did, Harriete, about the wonderful jeweler who took her beading classes to clients' campuses? Same thing as this box, really.</p>
<p>In my opinion, the art/craft world has often left interested laypeople feeling inferior and stupid when it comes to our work which is counter-productive and arrogant. Hobbyists derive pleasure from the act of making. What's so wrong with that? Making/creating anything is better than not creating at all and sitting on the sofa, sucking bon-bons, and watching re-runs of Friends all the time (<em>don't get me wrong, I loved that show</em>). Getting an introduction to a craft form in a non-threatening manner is much more preferable in my mind than standing in a corner feeling unworthy because the outside world tells you you are nothing but a dabbler.</p>
<p><strong>Whatever happened to the craft world being inclusive, helpful and supportive?</strong> I think this book is in the 'supportive' category. At the very least we might end up with someone who added a new <strong>craft experience</strong> to their lexicon. With craft in middle and high schools (and some universities) being the sad state of affairs that they are, anything to help people get into the mood for creating is good. As I said, some just need more help than others.</p>
<p>BTW: Nowhere did I see the claim made here that a person making something from this kit creates original artwork - but they indeed do learn something about the artist and the work, I think that is undeniable.</p>
<p>I want to add that in a weird twist of irony Joseph Cornell was self-taught too - which goes to show that everybody has to start somewhere and there's no telling where things can lead once your hands are covered in glue. :-)</p>
<p></p> The project section of this b…tag:crafthaus.ning.com,2014-02-23:2104389:Comment:4587642014-02-23T17:15:48.975ZHarriete E Bermanhttp://crafthaus.ning.com/profile/HarrieteEstelBerman
<p>The project section of this book is a "Paint-by-numbers" collage. It makes me very uncomfortable when it is suggested that the maker will be making original artwork or learning about the collage of Joseph Cornell with a sticker sheet.<br/><br/>Yes, I understand that this is just to make the book more inviting.It is a sales tool and nothing more.</p>
<p>Any thoughts?</p>
<p>Harriete</p>
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<p>The project section of this book is a "Paint-by-numbers" collage. It makes me very uncomfortable when it is suggested that the maker will be making original artwork or learning about the collage of Joseph Cornell with a sticker sheet.<br/><br/>Yes, I understand that this is just to make the book more inviting.It is a sales tool and nothing more.</p>
<p>Any thoughts?</p>
<p>Harriete</p>
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