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Thinking Out Loud

A group where you can post your bench problems and issues for discussion and comment.

It's open and can be used to ask technical questions or post solutions, tips or ideas which you think might be of use to other members.

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Latest Activity: May 15

About the group and its administrator...

This group came about through discussion with another member of Crafthaus as a direct result of my own technical blog posts, showing works in progress. Although I am going to use this group as a form of blog for technical matters, notes about what I've been up to in the workshop and that sort of thing, the intention behind the group is to be a forum to talk about anything technical, from the user reviews of equipment to favourite techniques to asking for help and advice from other Crafthaus members.

Initially, this group is not moderated and it will stay that way if everyone remains civil, which I am pretty sure they will: Crafthaus doesn't seem to attract the uncivil!

 

The reason that I thought this group to be such a good idea is that I am primarily a maker; I'm bench-trained and have been making jewellery for over 30 years, thus have a large range of experience which I can offer to others, conversely, when something goes wrong for me, I am not too proud to ask others for help. 

 

Here are a few images from my own workshop.

 

The Lobster Quadrille (WIP) 7 The Goggles, 23/01/08 Flatpack Settings 3The Lobster Quadrille (WIP) 4 Crystalline Silver

 


 

How to use this group.

 

Post your questions or tips as a new Discussion. Try to tag the discussion with appropriate keywords so that the it becomes searchable in the future. 

 

Reply to questions or add to tips in the "Reply to this discussion" field below each discussion topic.

 

Feel free to praise, argue, comment, agree... so long as it stays respectful!

Discussion Forum

Lower Cost investment options

Started by Sean Macmillan. Last reply by Jim Binnion Mar 31, 2012. 4 Replies

Hey Folks,Due to the obscene shipping cost of casting investment, I'm considering trying to mix up my own using a recipe similar to our sculpture casting investment (Plaster, Silica and some sort of refractory).  Has anyone attempted this?  What…Continue

Black Rhodium Plating

Started by Alison B. Antelman. Last reply by Angelina Ciulik Aug 1, 2012. 6 Replies

I use liver of sulphur to turn my silver jewelry black (gunmetal gray really) while not affecting the gold settings. Many people have come up to me at shows mentioning that I could plate the jewelry in Rhodium that is black and which would be much…Continue

Tags: black, plating, rhodium

Smith Little Torch hose failure

Started by Warren and Robbin. Last reply by Alison B. Antelman Nov 30, 2011. 3 Replies

Hi, Two sets of my little torch hoses have developed perforations their whole length. Both the oxygen and the LPG.Oddly enough their customer service won't answer my emails. All I'm asking is what in our shop environment eats the hoses? I am…Continue

Investment Removal

Started by The Justified Sinner. Last reply by The Justified Sinner Nov 30, 2011. 12 Replies

Any tips for removing investment residues post-casting?I have just cast a large torus form which is hollow and has only small openings. The whole piece is full of investment, of course. I've tried using the ultrasonic but that hasn't done much.…Continue

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Comment by Lora Hart on August 15, 2011 at 12:34pm

I don't know anything about Maine, but I hear that Racecar Jewelry in Rhode Island does a great job.

Comment by Laura Wood on August 15, 2011 at 12:16pm

Help! I have a couple bands that I need to have cast in gold, I usually use Maine Precious Metal Casting but am having trouble contacting anyone there.  I am concerned because they used to have a web page too but that seems to be non existent now.  Does anyone have any suggestions for a casting company that will do a fantastic job on this??? I need to have these sent out asap so I am in a nit of a bind.

Comment by Sean W Scully on March 24, 2011 at 5:05pm

I would think the expiry issue for paste fluxes would be the oxidation of the solder.

I've enjoyed sheet solder with a pick for gold work and the powder for filigree, but for my silver I generally find wire solder most convenient to clean, mill, cut, etc (an ancient pair of reliable craftsmen flush sidecutters). Especially on bezels where I try to keep the solder on the outside so it's easier to clean up and won't interfere with the fit of the stone/etc. I don't have the hang of stick feeding, I tend to stick with a longer setup and tiny pieces placed with tweezers.

Comment by Jeanie Pratt on March 24, 2011 at 8:43am
I use wire solder (cut it with solder cutting pliers from Rio) for most of my soldering.  I do use paste solder to solder the edges of my woven metal--a trick I learned from Susan Wood.  If the paste solder is too hard I set the syringe on a warming tray to soften it up. 
Comment by Ann Davis on March 23, 2011 at 4:01pm
Owwhhh that's a good idea, wire solder around bezels! Thanks...I have wire but, I can't do that trick with it...a goldsmith I studied under could just heat up the spot she wanted to solder and then touch the wire to it and it ran, in that way she could set up a whole lot of chain links to be soldered making a necklace in a minute...I never got the hang of that and just gave up... hadn't though of that in years:))))
Comment by Ann Davis on March 23, 2011 at 3:53pm
Yeah, I agree Lora, my syringes don't go bad so much as the stuff you buy in the little jar...that just dries up in my experience even if I'm not using it very often so I just quit buying that even though I like it a lot. And I've got this miracle gallon of flux that's years old and just keeps on working:))) it probably shouldn't but...hahahaha
Comment by Pal Gooz on March 23, 2011 at 2:24pm
When I started meddling with jewelry, I thought: paste solder, how cool is that... After a year or so messing I gave it a try to wire and sheet to never look back. One field I found paste useful is soldering chainlinks. I have no idea why , but there it works perfectly for me, except that I do not make so much chain that would justify the purchase of a new lot every few months. But if one makes a lot of links, it could be a a major time saver.
Comment by Lora Hart on March 23, 2011 at 1:54pm
Love that idea Dauvit! I have a hard time with granulation (not that I do it all that much) and the extra stickability would be grand!
Comment by The Justified Sinner on March 23, 2011 at 1:49pm

I hate paste solder and ban my students from using it; I also make them all roll their strips out to thin them, hence encouraging them to use less, so a marvellous suggestion from Kathleen!

In my experience, the paste solder dries out too quickly and if you try to use it with flux, it just makes a mess. Additionally, the strength is nowhere near as good as with strip or wire solders. 

 

I have used paste solder - don't tell my students! - to "fake" granulation quite successfully... dissolve the paste in a little water and gum tragacanth - it doesn't really dissolve but does form a suspension - then roll the granules in this, assemble the piece and fire.

Comment by Kathleen Brughelli on March 23, 2011 at 1:36pm
A great tip I learned from Micki Lippe is to roll your sheet solder through the rolling mill before you use it.  You end up using less solder and your solder lasts a lot longer.
 

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